TRANSFORMATIE;Beestachtig mooi

[Robinhood]

Kom ik toevallig weer wat tegen in de radiogids,pas geleden grapte ik nog dat ik een nieuw woord verzonnen had met afkorting,Trans Animal; TA.
Ik heb ook wel vaker iets gezegd over mensen die zich laten transformeren tot een dier,voor diegene die het leuk vinden om dit uit te diepen is er op Zondag 18-6 om 23.00 op RTL 4 het progamma Dossier met deze keer als onderwerp transformatie van mens naar dier,onder de noemer Beestachtig Mooi.

[Tijn]

is dat als die Lizardman die zn hele huid groen heeft getatoeerd en zn tong gespleten und dergelijke? vind ik opzich raar en tof tegelijk :p

[Robinhood]

Ja dat klopt,maar als het goed is laten ze meer zien ook over een poemavrouw.Ik persoonlijk vind het ook enigzins bizar,maargoed je kan een mens niet veroordelen om zijn voorkeur.
Wat mij wel opvalt is dat ze geen van allen echt gelukkig zijn.
En in een soort van hardcorecult leven,wat een klein wereldje is,ik vind dat deze documenterre een vrij goede impressie geeft ,die wat meer diepgang geeft inzake deze kwestie.Mits het dezelfde docu is!

[Tijn]

tsja, ik vind opzich mens -> dier wel een beetje erg ver gaan, maar als zij er blij mee zijn moeten ze het vooral doen he vraag me af of hun verzekering er mee akkoord gaat?

[Robinhood]

Jaahaa,en vallen ze onder behandeling van een huisarts of de dierenarts?

[Tijn]

ik ga voor de psychiater

[Robinhood]

Woef!!!!!!!

[Josette]

Jaahaa,en vallen ze onder behandeling van een huisarts of de dierenarts?

ik ga voor de psychiater

Dat denk ik ook. We weten toch dat er meer gekken buiten dan binnen het gekkenhuis rondlopen.

[Frederique_]

Ach... Wie is er nu niet een beetje gek.

Misschien is het zelfs wel zo dat alleen gekken denken dat ze normaal zijn

Groetjes,

Frederique

[Guest0]

Ik wist nog niet wat ik zou gaan kijken deze avond, maar ik denk inderdaad dat dit programma het wordt.

[Tijn]

Robin! :O volgens mij heb jij nu een groot dilemma joh, kiezen tussen Beestachtige Beesten en Lesbische Lesbiennes
of meld je dit alleen om het even kenbaar te maken?

[Robinhood]

Nou als het goed is en het is dezelfde docu dan heb ik het al gezien een tijdje terug vandaar dat ik deze topic schreef.
Want juist dit soort docu,s vertellen ons zoveel en het is natuurlijk gewoon leuk om te zien.
En ik heb geen video recorder dus ga ik vanavond naar de L-word kijken.
Dat wil ik toch ook niet missen,Tijn je hebt je huiswerk weer goed gedaan,volgens mij lezen we nog een keer dat je cum laude geslaagd bent.!

Veel plezier vanavond

[Tijn]

huiswerk? heuh? wat is dat?
Ik denk dat ik ook maar the L-word ga kijken, vorige week alleen de laatste 20 seconden gezien moet natuurlijk wel even een beetje bij blijven wil ik nog enigzins on topic kunnen posten in de L-word draad he

[Lisa met een S]

Om het weer on-topic te brengen, een mens als dier kan best wel mooi zijn:



Maar kan wel problemen met zich meebrengen. John Cleese bijvoorbeeld wist er alles van te vertellen wat het betekent wanneer je als mens af en toe een dier wilt zijn, in een klassieke Monty Python sketch:

(Sketch starts with a policeman leading a man in mouse costume into a police station. Photo of headline: Mouse Clubs On Increase. Cut to: photos of neon signs of clubs: Eek Eek Club; The Little White Rodent Room; Caerphilly A Go-Go. Cut to studio: ordinary grey-suited Linkman.)
Linkman: Yes. The Mouse Problem• This week 'The World Around Us' looks at the growing social phenomenon of Mice and Men. What makes a man want to be a mouse.
(Interviewer, Harold Voice, sitting facing a confessor. The confessor is badly lit and is turned away from camera.)
Confessor: (very slowly and painfully) Well it's not a question of wantiing to be a mouse... it just sort of happens to you. All of a sudden you realize... that's what you want to be.
Interviewer: And when did you first notice these... shall we say... tendencies?
Confessor: Well... I was about seventeen and some mates and me went to a party, and, er... we had quite a lot to drink... and then some of the fellows there ... started handing ... cheese around ... and well just out of curiosity 1 tried a bit ... and well that was that.
Interviewer: And what else did these fellows do?
Confessor: Well some of them started dressing up as mice a bit ... and then when they'd got the costumes on they started ... squeaking.
Interviewer: Yes. And was that all?
Confessor: That was all.
Interviewer: And what was your reaction to this?
Confessor: Well I was shocked. But, er... gradually I came to feel that I was more at ease ... with other mice.
(Cut to linkman.)
Linkman: A typical case, whom we shall refer to as Mr A, although his real name is this:
Voice Over: (and CAPTION) ARTHUR JACKSON 32A MILTON AVENUE, HOUNSLOW, MIDDLESEX.
Linkman: What is it that attracts someone like Mr A to this way of life? I have with me a consultant psychiatrist.
(The camera pulls back to reveal the psychiatrist who places in front of himself a notice saying 'The Amazing Kargol And Janet '.)
Kargol: Well, we've just heard a typical case history. I myself have over seven hundred similar histories, all fully documented. Would you care to choose one?
(Janet, dressed in showgirl's outfit, enters and offers Linkman the case histories fanned out like cards, with one more prominent than the others; he picks it out.)
Kargol: (without looking) Mr Arthur Aidridge of Leamington.
Linkman: Well, that's amazing, amazing. Thank you, Janet. (chord; Janet postures and exits) Kargol, speaking as a psychiatrist as opposed to a conjuror...
Kargol: (disappointed) Oh...
Linkman: ... what makes certain men want to be mice?
Kargol: Well, we psychiatrists have found that over 8% of the population will always be mice. I mean, after all, there's something of the mouse in all of us. I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't felt sexually attracted to mice. (Linkman looks puzzled) I know I have. I mean, most normal adolescents go through a stage of squeaking two or three times a day. Some youngsters on the other hand, are attracted to it by its very illegality. It's like murder - make a thing illegal and it acquires a mystique. (Linkman looks increasingly embarrassed) Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building. I know I have. (phone on desk rings; the Linkman picks it up but does not answer it) The only way to bring the crime figures down is to reduce the number of offences - get it out in the open - I know I have,
Linkman: (replacing phone) 'l'he Amazing Kargol And Janet. What a lot of people don't realize is that a mouse, once accepted, can fulfil a very useful role in society. Indeed there are examples throughout history of famous men now known to have been mice.
(Cut to Julius Caesar on beach. He shouts 'Veni Vidi, Vial'. Then he adds a furtive squeak. Napoleon pulls slice of cheese out of jacket and bites into it. Cut to Linkman)
Linkman: And, of course, Hillaire Belloc. But what is the attitude...
(Cut to man in a Viking helmet.)
Viking: ... of the man in the street towards...
Linkman: ... this growing social problem?
(Vox pops films.)
Window Cleaner: Clamp down on them.
Off-screen Voice: How?
Window Cleaner: I'd strangle them.
Stockbroker: Well speaking as a member of the Stock Exchange I would suck their brains out with a straw, sell the widows and orphans and go into South American Zinc.
Man: Yeh I'd, er, stuff sparrows down their throats, er, until the beaks stuck out through the, er, stomach walls.
Accountant: Oh well I'm a chartered accountant, and consequently too boring to be of interest.
Vicar: I feel that these poor unfortunate people should be free to live the lives of their own choice.
Porter: I'd split their nostrils open with a boat hook, I think.
2nd Man: Well I mean, they can't help it, can they? But, er, there's nothing you can do about it. So er, I'd kill 'em.
(Cut to linkman.)
Linkman: Clearly the British public's view is a hostile one.
Voice Over: (and CAPTION) 'HOSTILE'
Linkman: But perhaps this is because so little is generally known of these mice men. We have some film now taken of one of the notorious weekend mouse parties, where these disgusting little perverts meet.
(Cut to exterior house (night). The blinds are drawn so that only shadows of enormous mice can be seen, holding slices of cheese and squeaking.)
Linkman:'s Voice Mr A tells us what actually goes on at these mouse parties.
(Cut to Mr A.)
Mr A: Well first of all you get shown to your own private hole in the skirting board... then you put the mouse skin on... then you scurry into the main room, and perhaps take a run in the wheel.
Linkman: The remainder of this film was taken secretly at one of these mouse parties by a BBC cameraman posing as a vole. As usual we apologize for the poor quality of the film.
(Very, poor quality film, shadowy shapes, the odd mouse glimpsed.)
Mr A's Voice: Well, er, then you steal some cheese, Brie or Camembert, or Cheddar or Gouda, if you're on the harder stuff. You might go and see one of the blue cheese films... there's a big clock in the middle of the room, and about 12.50 you climb up it and then ...eventually, it strikes one... and you all run down.
(Cut to a large matron with apron and cawing knife)
Linkman's Voice: And what's that?
Mr A's Voice: That's the farmer's wife.
(Cut to the linkman at desk.)
Linkman: Perhaps we need to know more of these mice men before we can really judge them. Perhaps not. Anyway, our thirty minutes are up.
(Sound of baa-ing. The linkman looks up in air, looks startled, pulls a gun from under the desk and fires in the air. The body of a sheep falls to the floor.)
Linkman: Goodnight.

[mireille]

Tja eh... net de show gezien... poeh...

Zouden "buitenstaanders" ons ook zo zien... vast wel... mooi moment van zelfreflectie weer....